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The SMOKEY GREENE Story
Both of my grandfathers passed away before I was born.
I am told they were both good fiddlers. From what I could gather
from listening to the older folks, it seems my grandfather Greene might
have been the better fiddler, however, his fiddling was done at home for
his and his friends entertainment. I've heard many stories of how
my grandfather Meranville more or less supported his family by playing
the fiddle at dances and would drive his horse and buggy wagon miles and
miles to play for what change could be taken in a collection or a sack
of groceries, whatever they would give him. I have heard him
referred to as being lazy, but I know that anyone that makes a living
playing music can't do so if he's lazy. You might not prefer
manual labor, but playing music is sure not all fun and games.
Danby and Tinmouth, Vermont in the early 1900's must
have been a rough place to dig a living out of them stony mountains.
The people were as tough as the land they lived on. My father has
told me of Saturday nights in Danby Store, a nickel going to the
winners. (I'm told Dad won a lot of nickels. He loved to
fight, and did until he passed away). This boxing was done bare
fisted. Dad told me of is father winning a barrel of flour (over
400 lbs.) by picking it up and carrying it five miles before setting it
down. Both of my grandmothers lived to an old age. They were
both beautiful people. I have fond memories of them.
On March 10th, 1930, a 10 lb., 11 oz boy, Walter George,
was born on the Tom Greene place in Tinmouth, Vermont to Harris and
Ethel Greene. He was third of their five children: Harris,
Jr., Mildred, Walt, Franklin, Annie and a half-brother Henry.
I don't remember much of the first five or six years of
my life. Mostly moving a lot and it seems like I was always
hungry. A couple of things stand out in my mind. One is of
an old Model T Ford that a neighbor, Albert Jenkins used to have.
He raised hogs and would go to Rutland to the bakeries and buy up the
old bread, pies and cakes to feed them. He would stop by our
houses and let us help ourselves to it. Old or not, it sure
was good. I can still see that Model T coming down the road tilted
to the left. Albert weighted something over 500 pounds and the
springs on the driver's side were worn out. Another thing that
stands out is the smell of a lumber camp. There's nothing that
smells any better than a new camp built out of fresh-sawed pine boards,
horses, sawmill and fresh fallen trees. It was living in
lumber camps that I first remember my brother Henry playing a guitar and
singing Cliff Carlyle and Jimmy Rodgers songs. That used to
fascinate me. I wanted to play and sing just like my big brother.
Around the camp, someone was always playing a mouth organ or a jews-harp.
The die was cast.
Throughout the 30's, we moved from place to place
following logging jobs. In some of the places we lived, there
would be a piano or pump organ which my mother would play. She
could read music so it was always a big thing when someone would bring
her a copy of one of the new songs on sheet music. Dad played the
"push pull" accordion (I guess it was called a concertina).
I had three uncles that were fiddle players an several older
cousins that played guitars, mandolins or banjos. A cousin, Ron
Jackson, was a big favorite of mine. As a six or seven year old
boy, I would sit and listen as long as he would play. The only
trouble was, we didn't get to see him often enough. My brother
Henry and cousin Ron were a big influence on me as a young boy and have
remained so throughout my life. Times were tough, money was
scarce, but music was always a part of our life.
The 30's was the time of the hobo. I can remember
them coming to our house, and no matter how little we had to eat, they
were always welcome to share it. Some of them would have a bite
and be on their way. Others might stay a day or two, doing
whatever chores they could to help out, like cutting wood or weeding the
garden. I remember one hobo who was a barber. That was the
only time anyone cut my hair other than my father until I was 14
years old.
One place we lived in, Dad walked about fifteen miles to
work. He would leave before I was awake and come home after I had
gone to bed. The only time I saw him was on Sunday. Us kids
always had to walk to school, anywhere from 1 or 2 up to 5 or 6 miles
each day (the first time I ever rode in a school bus, I drove it).
Toys were a very scarce item around our house. At
Christmas we would get an orange and some nuts in our stocking.
One Christmas I remember, my present was a top Dad had whittled out of a
thread spool. Our clothes were hand-me downs or homemade. At
Christmas, Ma would always make us mittens.
In 1939, our house burned down. We went to stay
for a week or so with an uncle. That was my first experience with
indoor plumbing. I was scared to death of the flush toilet.
Somehow we made it through the 30's. We were poor
but everyone we knew was just as poor as we were, so except for
sometimes being hungry, we were happy. The 40's brought better
times for the Greene family. I remember how happy Dad was when he
got a job that paid him fifty cents an hour. We even got us a
radio. Folks who remember them great old radio shows know what I
mean when I say we sure got a lot of enjoyment listening to Amos and
Andy, Fibber McGee and Molly, WLS Barn Dance and so many more of them,
of which there are too many to mention here. It was in the early
40's that I first heard the great Yodeling Slim Clark on radio.
The summer of 1940 and 1941, I spent on the golf courses in Manchester,
Vermont caddying. A caddy was paid $1.00 to carry the golf bag 18
holes and 50 cents for 9 holes. Sometimes you would carry two bags
and make $2.00. Them bags sure was heavy for a 10 year old boy to
tote. Most of the money I made was turned over to my mother to
help support the family. The summer of 1942 I worked on a farm. I
was paid $5.00 a week, room and board. This was good money for a
12 year old boy. Most of it, however, was turned over to my
mother. In the winter of 1942, I went to school an hour before the
rest of the kids to build a fire in the pot bellied stove used to heat
the school. For this I was paid $50 a week. In
1943, my father was taken sick and was unable to work much. I went
to live with an uncle on a farm where I worked for my room and board.
While staying with my uncle I finished my last year of schooling in a
one room schoolhouse in Tinmouth, Vermont. There was about fifteen
pupils in all 8 grades. There was just one other boy and myself
that graduated from the 8th grade in 1944. While going to school
in Tinmouth, I walked a little over five miles to and from school.
I didn't mind much except on the real cold days. In the Spring, I
would carry a fish line and hook, cut a willow pole and do a little
fishing on the way home. In the Fall, I would carry a 22 or 410
and hunt small game on the way home. At the town meeting , someone
suggested that I should be furnished a ride. My uncle jumped
up and said, "It won't hurt that boy to walk". I have often
thought how much a school district could save if there were more people
today like my Uncle Harold. It was 1944 that I first
started teaching myself to play the tenor banjo. In the
fall of 1944, I went back home to live with my parents who had taken
over a farm to run on half's in Rupert, Vermont. I helped on the
farm some and worked in the woods cutting logs with a crosscut saw.
Another fellow and myself was cutting hardwood. We were paid $5.00
per thousand feet and cold cut two or three thousand feet a day.
Boy, were we living high on the hog! I worked at farming, cutting
logs, driving skid horse an assortment of odd jobs until I went into the
Air Force.
When I was fifteen I had taught myself to play the
banjo, mandolin and guitar well enough so I was invited to a lot of
parties and dances. I also used to play and sing in bar rooms
where someone would generally take up a collection. In
1946 my family moved back to Danby, Vermont. It was that year that
I first met Yodeling Slim Clark. I played banjo with him and from
then on I wanted to play music for a living. But - that would not
come to be for another fifteen years. California was a
good place to be in the mid 50's if you liked country music. There
was lots of places to play and lots of musicians to play with.
When I first got to California I sat in with a group every weekend for
about six weeks. They saw they couldn't get rid of me so they
started including me as part of the band. The leader of the group
used to book us into places where we would make two or three dollars a
piece. The lead guitar player and steel player asked me to take
over the group and book the jobs where we cold make some money. I
liked Murphy, the band leader, and told the boys I wouldn't just take
the band away from him. So they decided to quit, and did. I
told Murphy I was going to form a group and wanted him to play fiddle.
his first reaction was no, but a couple of weeks later he joined us
again. We had the same group except now I was the leader. We
did start making more money, but it was at this time I found out
musicians are always broke. I also found out that the leader of
the group not only furnished the PA equipment, transportation, booked
the jobs, and arranged the songs, he had to listen to everyone's
problems, be a diplomat, give advice to the lovelorn and always have a
few extra bucks to lend. Every night we played I found I was going
through 3 or 4 packs of cigarettes, so, I started buying a pack of
cigarettes for each member of the band and taking it out of their pay at
the end of the night. they started calling me Smokey and the name
stuck. I used the name "Smokey Greene and the Green Mt. Boys" for
a band name from 1955 until the early 70's when a young bluegrass group
was formed in Vermont and called themselves the Green Mt. Boys, so I
dropped Green Mt. and called the band "The Boys". Oh yes, I also
found that the band leader was also responsible for settling the band
member bar tabs. I was playing a Jumbo Kay guitar and
used to dream of someday owning a Martin. I would go to the music
store and stand and look at them. One day the store owner asked me
why I didn't buy one. I told him I didn't have the money. He
said to take it home and pay him whatever I could afford each month, so
I did. I was scared stiff to go home and tell Pat that I had gone
in debt for $250.00 for a new guitar. When she saw it, she was as
happy as I was. Every night I played I took my pay to the music
store, and I paid if off in about two months. In
California, we were playing the same circuit as Vern Stovall (wrote
"Long Black Limousine") and Cal Smith ("Country Bumpkin"). I also
got to meet and work quite a bit with Wayne Raney. That was a big
thrill for me because I had been a big fan of his for many years.
Who could forget Wayne Raney and Lonnie Glosson radio shows out of WCKY
in Cincinnati, Ohio. I also worked quite a bit with a banjo player
by the name of Ed Amos. I remember he told me I was the only
guitar player in California that could make a "G" run. At the time
I didn't really know what he was talking about! In 1947,
with my brother Henry playing bass, his wife Martha playing mandolin and
myself playing guitar, I formed the band. We didn't
get to do much playing, except for ourselves and the neighbors.
Now as I think back about it, we were pretty crude. But they were
fun days for me. In 1948, I joined the USAF and
started driving the guys in the barracks nuts with my guitar and
hillbilly songs.
The 31st of March 1948, I left home
saying nothing to anybody. I hitch-hiked to Bennington, Vermont
and signed up in the USAF. I was sent to Fort Devins, Mass. the
next day where I took a physical and was sworn in. Three days
later I wrote home from San Antonio, Texas. I couldn't get over
the fact that when I left Danby, Vermont there was still snow on the
ground, and when I a got to Texas, four days later, corn was waist high.
The reason I left home without saying goodbye is personal so I'll keep
it to myself. The Air Force trained me to be a radio
operator, which was a big help when I eventually got into DJ work.
The first couple years in the Air Force my music was restricted to the
barracks and day room. In 1949, I found myself stationed
at Grenier Air Force Base, Manchester, NH. I used to hitchhike
home most every weekend to court Patricia Matteson. On April 8th,
1950, we were married in a small ceremony at Reverend King's home in
Rupert, Vermont. On July 4th, just 3 months after we were married,
I was on my way to the Far East to participate in President Truman's
police action. The three months we lived together in Manchester,
New Hampshire were a wonderful time. We lived in what they called
a Kitchenette. I bought an old guitar from a hock shop and it was
at this time I first started trying to write songs. I was learning
all of the ET, Hank W., Hank S, Hank T, and Lefty's songs and also
singing songs I had learned from listening to the radio in the 40's
like some of the Bradley Kinkaid classics. When I left
the states in July of 1950 my orders read 5th Air Force Korea and I was
gung-ho to go to war and see the world. When our ship docked in
Yokahama, Japan, my orders were changed and I was sent to a small radar
site on Hokkaido, the northern most island of Japan. I spent a year
on Hokkaido playing the guitar and singing the war away. I
volunteered several times to go to Korea, but my commanding officer was
a lot smarter than I was and he turned me down. I was lucky to
have stayed in Japan, but I didn't realize it at the time, until after
the war when I found out how many of the boys I went to radio school
with didn't make it back. In 1951 some guys at our
headquarters on the main island (Honsho) had heard about me and arranged
to have me transferred to play in a band with them. It seems that
the commanding officer, Col. George H. Southerland, from Louisiana, was
a big fan of hillbilly music. After I transferred to headquarters,
I spent many nights entertaining him. I might mention that went
from a private to a Staff Sergeant in about a years time. The band
I played in worked the E.M. , NCO and officers clubs and picked up
quite a lot of extra spending money. I played mostly the mandolin
in this group (wish I'd kept it up). I was having so much
fun, I re-enlisted. In 1952, we entered competition for
Air Force country bands in Japan and won first place. We
then went on to win first place in competition of band from all over the
Far East. The band was scheduled to play in a worldwide
competition when I was sent back to the States. I never found out how
they made out. When I got back to the States, I was
stationed in South Carolina for a year where I tried to get into a group
to play music, but no one was interested. So once again I was back
to entertaining myself. I had listened to Bluegrass
style music most of my life, but it was while I was in South Carolina
that I first heard Earl Scruggs using tuners on a five string banjo.
I used to play "Earl's Breakdown" over and over trying to figure out how
he was making that sound. I didn't figure out how he was doing it,
but I sure knew I liked it. It was at this time that Mac Wiseman
was recording for DOT records. I fell in love with his music, and
couldn't get enough of it. After a year in South
Carolina, I was sent to Korea for a year (by this time they were
exchanging prisoners). I couldn't get hooked up with a band so I
started playing as a single in the clubs. It was a good training ground
for what would come later on. While I was in Korea, I studied the
game of poker. I bought books and really took the game seriously.
I taught myself to deal cards, which is an art in itself. I got
good enough at the game to send enough money home to Pat to buy a new
car. that was a far cry from when we were kids playing with match
sticks. I played a few times after Korea, but I never took
it seriously again. Poker is a game of skill, not luck - the same
as music. If you want to be a winner, you've got to be serious
about it and play every day. In mid 1954 or early 1955, I
was sent back to the States and was stationed in Fairfield, California.
It was in California that I headed up my first band. It was also
here that I picked up the name Smokey. I have already
mentioned playing with Ed Amos in California. His sister, Betty
Amos, became quite famous and worked for me in my nightclub nearly
twenty years later (small world). It was in 1956 in
California that I made my first phonograph record, a 78 RPM, which
included two songs I had written, "Wrong Side Of The Street" and "River
Of Blues". that was my first of quite a few records that sold way
under a million. I was discharged from the USAF in April
of 1957. I kind of wanted to stay in California, but Pat wouldn't
hear of it. We hadn't been home in almost three years, and I guess
she was pretty homesick. I was confident I as going to become a
big country music star no matter where we lived, so we loaded our new
Ford pick-up truck and headed for Vermont (boy did I have a big surprise
coming). When we got back to Vermont, I tried for about
six months to find work playing music, but nobody wanted to hire a
hillbilly musician. In order to eat, I took a job in the woods
driving a crawler tractor. When that job was finished up, I
decided to draw unemployment and keep trying to find a job playing
music. I went to sign up for unemployment, but when I got to the
unemployment office, I was too proud and didn't go in. I bought a
newspaper and checked out the help wanted ads. I found a job on a
chicken farm in Easton, New York. I stayed on the chicken farm for
over a year and a half. While I was working on the chicken farm, I
got a job Saturday nights playing in a local gin mill. I was
doing a single for $10.00 a night. I was really packin' -em-in.
I quit the farm and tried music full time once again and ended up eating
government surplus food. By now we had two more mouths to feed, so
I took a job in a paper mill as a millwright. I worked for Angel
Soft Tissue mills for three years and played music nights. My
music was starting to catch on a little. I was working six days
and playing 4 or 5 nights a week. I was sleeping in the car on my
way home form jobs more than I was sleeping in my bed. One morning
at breakfast, I said to Pat, "I've got to quite the music or the mill.
I just can't stand this pace." Pat said, "Quit the mill.
You're not happy there and you know you won't be happy doing anything
but playing music." So, once again, I quit my day job, but the
music jobs were coming my way now. I had gotten into radio work
and developed a good following. I was packin'-'em-in everywhere I
played. Places that I had offered to play three years previously
for $5.00 were now paying me $50.00 to $75.00 a night. the money
was good, but the work was hard doing a single. That's when I
developed the Smokey Greene style of guitar playing. Most of
the jobs were 5 hour gigs so I used to stick my guitar up in the
microphone and start playing runs form one chord to another to give my
voice a rest. I didn't know at the time I was developing a new
style of guitar playing. In fact, I never gave it a thought
until I started playing with other bluegrass bands. Quite often
the guitar player would come up to me and ask me to show them "that
lick". I started analyzing it so I could slow it down and show
them what I was doing. I don't think there is a half dozen people
today that can play that style.
 In 1961, I met a fiddle
by the name of Jimmie Hamblin. We teamed up and worked together
for the next ten years. In the id-sixties we put together what I
think was as good an act as could be found anywhere: Digger
Dan Dutra on banjo, Daddy Dick Richards on upright bass, Jimmie and
myself. We opened a lot of shows for name acts like Ernest Tubb,
Hank Thompson, Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard and most of the acts that
worked the WWVA Jamboree. We more than held our own with these
biggies. I think that we made a mistake by not branching out
and covering a larger area with our music. We had so much work in
the Glens Falls area and we were making a good living, so we got into a
rut, playing the same places year after year. We worked one club
every Monday night for eight years. I could see that I really
wasn't getting anywhere is music, so in 1966, I leased a small
nightclub in Thompson, New York. I used to bring in bluegrass acts
like Reno & Harrell, Country Gentlemen, 2nd Generation, Don Stover,
Charlie Moore and a host of others. The club would normally
hold about 75 people, but with the bluegrass acts, I was packing in 150
or more. I was the only person in the area at that time that was
promoting bluegrass. I started looking for a larger club and in
1970 I found one. I moved my business to Glens Falls where I had a
very successful business featuring country and bluegrass. I
featured a four-hour broadcast from the club each Friday night, live.
Whatever group was booked in for the weekend was stuck with it. I
also did a one hour broadcast from the club at noon on Saturdays.
I was on the air from six a.m. until noon on Saturday and it was quite a
tick to sign off at noon at the station, drive across town and
sign on live at the club. Just one of the tricks of radio. I
would introduce two records, start one, jump and head for the car.
The news man would start the second record and then my recorded theme,
do five minutes of news and then introduce me at the club.
Sometimes if I didn't catch the lights just right, I would walk right
through the door at the club just as they were announcing me, grab the
guitar and start singing. I never told anyone how I got from the
radio station to the club. I just let them wonder.
In the mid-sixties, I attended a Bluegrass Festival as a guest of Don
Reno and Bill Harrell. That gave me the bug. For the
next couple of years, I attended more festivals in Virginia, Maryland
and Pennsylvania. I thought it would be great to have one of these
around home. I thought a lot of people would attend, and I could
make all kinds of money (boy, did I have lesson to learn). For the
next couple of years Digger Dan Dutra and I spent quite a
lot of time trying to find a place to hold one. We looked at
several places, none of which were adequate.
In 1971, "The 2nd Generation" was playing in my club. They
wanted to do a festival and found a place in Corinth to hold it.
They asked me to be their representative, taking care of permits,
insurance, garbage, porta-johns, etc. They were going to cut
me in for 10%. After attending three town board meetings, I
finally got their permission, though some of the board members
were dead set against it. They associated the word festival with
"Woodstock". The 2nd Generation band broke up. Since I
had the ground work done, I went ahead with it and called it
the Smokey Greene Bluegrass Festival.
The first year was a howling success in every way but one. A good
crowd showed up, the music was good, the weather was good, and everyone
had a good time. Everyone was congratulating me for having the
first major bluegrass festival in the New York State. The only bad
thing about it was when it came time to pay up. There just wasn't
money enough to go around. I came up about $1500.00 short.
The Adirondack Bluegrass League gave me $500. I wrote the rest off
and made plans for the second annual festival, which was held in Corinth
and was successful in every way. Don Towers helped me with the
second one. We didn't get rich, but at least we kept our heads
above water.
In 1974, I rented a farm in Fort Ann. I had visions of building a
country music park. I won't go into all the details, except to say
the land deal went bad (everyone told me, "You've got to get it in
writing"). It rained on the third annual festival. I lost
$8,000.00. Pat and I mortgaged the house, paid off the debts and
said goodbye to bluegrass festivals.

After licking my wounds all winter, Pete and Shirley Bishop (who
didn't want to see the festival fold) offered me the use of their
land for free if I would hold another one. Well, it was spring,
and you've heard of what happens to a young man's fancy. For the
next two years, Pete and Shirley worked their butts off and didn't get
anything for it. Nor did I. I paid t he bills, divided the
money among the bands and hoped for better luck next year. In '77,
I turned the concession stands over to the Bishop's so they could make
something for their efforts. In '79, after paying everything, I
had a thousand dollars left over. Pete and I were sitting in my
camper talking. I put the stack of bills on thee table and cut it
in two like you would cut a deck of cards. Pete took one pile, I
took the other. We were finally in the black.
I think it was 1974 or maybe 1975 when I first traveled to Maine to work
for Fred Pike and Sam Tidwell. It was a great experience for me.
I found a whole new and different audience that seemed to
appreciate my brand of country music. I really needed the lift
that the people in Maine gave me. I might have faded out of the
picture if it hadn't been for them.
One of the biggest thrills for me came in 1977. I was playing a
Sunday afternoon gig when some people approached me and asked me if I
would object if they formed a Smokey Greene Fan Club. I told them
I would be honored. However, I would want the club to be for the
fans and not for me. I still think we should have names it the
"Smokey Greene Fun Club". The fan club has been very
successful. The first day, 85 people signed up ad it has steadily
grown and now has a membership of 572 people. Many people have
worked hard to make thee fan club a success, but one person has been the
mainstay. Without her, I probably would have let the club fold.
Shirley Wilson, thanks!! I love you. I know, and appreciate,
the sacrifices you have made for me.
In 1977, I also received another great honor in the form of a beautiful
plaque, presented to me that reads: Smokey Greene: In
recognition of his great contributions towards the promotion and
preservation of country and bluegrass music. Through his
broadcasting, performing and sponsoring of music festivals, he has shown
that he truly has a country heart and a bluegrass soul. Presented
by his many friends and fans at the Smokey Greene 5th Annual Bluegrass
Festival, August 20th, 1977. Along with the plaque, I was
presented with an album signed by the great many friends and
entertainers with their personal comments. When I look through
this album, it brings back some great memories.
In 1979, I was presented with a "Coat of Many Colors". Friends and
entertainers from 9 states made patches and sent them to Carolyn DuBay
in Cambridge, Maine. She sewed them together and made a beautiful
coat that fills me with pride each time I put it on. The coat was
presented to me in a very touching ceremony at the Thomas Point Beach
Bluegrass Festival. There were very few dry eyes that morning.

Something that makes me feel real good is having had the chance these
past ten years to work with a lot of young talent. When you stand
on stage with two or three musicians that are not even half your age,
you get the feeling that your music will never die because there will be
someone coming along to carry it on. I just hope that I have
left a big enough impression on these young people so that when I
retire, I can sit back and listen to another generation playing the
music that we love without cluttering it up to the point that it is
unrecognizable.
With this, I'll close The Smokey Greene Story for now. Stay tuned,
I'm sure there is more to come...
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